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七月的P家器材讨论区,俺替PNP1挣工分啦

TO:PENTAX 67II
谢谢你的详尽信息,9成以上新的S－M－C135/3.5太苦马在国内大概多钱?

quicksilver，小金是FA*80-200/2.8。

谢谢各位！首期等东西还在搞，只是下了定金，首期也挺辛苦的，月供还过得去。

漏洞，起码是这一两年是不会大进器材了，专心拍片，有闲钱的话也去旅游拍片了。

欧迈高，一来是手头在用的东西都不舍得出了，经过这次凤凰之行，更是感觉现在的器材很好很够用了，二来是关于手头上一些杂物（例如MZ5N+FA28-70/4+F70-210/4-5.6,M35/2,A50/1.2）出了也值不了多少钱，于事无补，而且都不是以后容易找回来的东西，所以不打算卖这些，三来是收藏的那几件东西更是不能卖。四来是原来要卖的却没人要，真是苦闷，本来那个K20mm/4还是挺值钱的。所以还是省一些其他的花销，忍住不要动器材这一块了。

[VP 编辑于 2003-06-30 23:24]

VP：是买房了？还是买车了？是就恭喜了 钱不够？手上的好东西出掉点，不就得了。

喜喜 & 其他弟兄，请见谅一下，我的凤凰片子一来是没有完全整理好（数码的搞好了，反转还没有扫描），二来这些天忙着另外一件大事，没多少时间了。

报告领导，上传完毕！

同意67兔对135/3.5的评价，我的是m的，一样很棒
优点：
1.比标头大不了多少，轻，光线好的话手持没问题
2.内置折光罩
3.镜头很锐，背景虚化漂亮

现在俺把她固定装在superA上，是除了50/1.4外用的最多的镜头

另：vp你怎么还不上图！

倦鸟，你不怕你现在的GF扁你啊！

最后的狼，严重羡慕！

请问P家各位兄弟：
    我想买28-70/4的头，配MZ-3,主要是为了出门揣着轻便，况且价格..............可前两天转了北京的好几家器材店都被告知已没货，那位兄弟知道北京市场哪有货，小弟不胜感激。现在24-90/3.5-4.5到是满街是，但重量不说，价格也差了一倍，最主要的是俺不知它的成像质量如何。

最后的狼
    我的要求低一些，你LP有小5岁的MM嘛？

Viva：最近上了什么好东西？赶快吧直角交出来！

俺最近全面考察各类120机器，觉得M6MF+50+75不错，你那边见得到嘛？

得上来表扬一下我LP了，今天在下班路上向LP汇报了我打算上120的想法，并将准备把135器材出售换资金的想法也如实交代了。LP立马就火了，“那要赔多少钱呀！要上120，就再去买一套，3万5万的我给你不就完了！要卖135，AF部分除非你把Z-1P玩坏了，MF部分除非你把LX玩坏了！”

KAO，幸福！真幸福要好好珍惜，好好计划，不能再盲目了。

焦点时光，你应该是广州的吧，你说的应该就是康泰那里的M28/2吧，那个头都放了很久了，个人认为是贵了，如果是K版的就差不多，你想一下吧，我当时买FA*24/2也就2400，当然成色稍差，但是也可以从一个侧面看到这个头的价格。不过我从国外的评论上一直没看到M28/2的评价，只有K28/2，给个网站你去看看吧，里面有大部分28mm镜头的评价。
http://www_concentric_net/~Smhalpin/

General Discussion of 28 mm lenses . . .

3.17.99 - Valentin observed:

> Now, it's interesting that Yoshihiko is mentioning the "F" in the "keep away from" list.
>What's wrong with it ? Let's say when compared with the "FA" ?

- - - - - -

Yoshihiko Takinami replies:

F28/2.8 is optically identical to M28/2.8 (later model) and A28/2.8, if I remember correctly.

FA28/2.8AL was newly designed when FA lenses were introduced. FA28/2.8AL is a bit soft at wide open, and slightly soft at f/4, while K28/3.5 is very sharp even at wide open.

My personal ranking for Pentax 28m lenses are follows;

K28/3.5, K28/2 >= M28/3.5 >= FA28/2.8AL >>> M28/2.8 (old) >M28/2.8 (later), A28/2.8, F28/2.8

So F28/2.8 is never comparable to FA28/2.8AL in point of optical performance.

Yoshihiko Takinami [again] - I have something to add.

Try Hama rectangular hood (52mm) for this lens. It seems the best hood for K28/3.5 I have ever seen. It also works well with K24/2.8, K28/2, K30/2.8, K35/2, and K35/3.5 in my experiences.

[and in respose to another query . . .]

> I'm out looking for a cheap but good mf (28 or wider) wideangle lens.
> I was thinking maybe one you have a good lens that you are willing to
> give up, or maybe you couldjust give me a tip about what lens I should
> buy.

Go for a used K28/3.5 (SMC PENTAX 28mm f/3.5), a cheap but optically excellent lens, IMO. It is the sharpest 28mm lens that Pentax ever made.

Or go for a used M28/3.5 (smc PENTAX-M 28mm f/3.5), a cheap but good lens, IMHO.

[and in response to yet another query . . .]

First of all, please note that a resolution test is a resolution test. It only shows a part of the optical performance of the lens tested.

As for the K-mount 28mm lenses of Pentax, I have/had experiences with K28/2, K28/3.5, M28/2, M28/2.8, M28/3.5, and FA28/2.8AL. I have resolution test results of K28/3.5, M28/3.5, and FA28/2.8AL among them.

I had been disappointed in the performances of M28/2 and M28/2.8 comparing then to the K lenses and sold them several years ago. So I couldn't test them in the recent resolution test. I actually tested K28/2. But after the test I found it need to be repaired, and deleted the K28/2 result. I will test it [again] . . .

The best among the lenses above, IMHO, is K28/3.5 in point of sharpness, contrast, resolution, and aberrations. The next will be FA28/2.8AL. This is just my opinion.

28 mm f/2.0 M
Bibi Kwa (From the Web) - Very good lens Very sharp, some distortion. Beautiful colors and bokeh.

昨天，偶去杭州都市先锋冲反转，看到一本美国出的PENTAX194?-1989年的相机和镜头介绍，有图有文字，32开本的大小，全铜版印刷，价格倒是高高在上要价360。
对了，还有所有的附件，估计是宾德产品收藏鉴赏之类的册子。没有书的美刀定价。

[lyfwolf 编辑于 2003-06-30 16:55]